Cartridge case, probably anti-aircraft gun

 

 

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Find ID: 
VT-GK84B8V3
Published: 
13.11.2025
Description: 
Base stamp P345 Manufacturer: Silva Metallwerke GmbH Gentin
Material: 
Messing
Weight: 
137,01 g
Length: 
140,0 mm
Diameter: 
27,0 mm
Condition: 
Größtenteils erhalten
Conductance: 
92 - 97
Detector: 
Xp Deus 2
Country: 
Deutschland
County: 
Göttingen
Front / Uncleaned

 

Rear / Cleaned with water & brush

 

 

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Frankytown   14.11.2025
The base stamp suggests a German 3.7mm Flak gun, but it's clearly too short for that. The current Tornado and Eurofighter aircraft have 27mm guns, but they have a narrower rim above the ejector pin groove. Neither seems to fit satisfactorily. Could you please take more pictures, including the dimensions?
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Frankytown   18.11.2025
It is the casing of a German 20mm Flak 38.

 

 

Sondelreise   18.11.2025
On Saturday I was back at the spot, and this time a police/KMRD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal Service) intervention was necessary because I found the stuff to be live, with a phosphorus tip, as I was told. Well, we're aware of the dangers that come with our hobby.
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Frankytown   18.11.2025
Phosphorus as part of an incendiary or armor-piercing grenade with tracer?
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Sondelreise   19.11.2025
I was surprised too, but that's how the police commented on it; since everything took hours, I wasn't there anymore when the murderer arrived.
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Sondelreise   19.11.2025
I think they meant tracer flare; the woman didn't even know what an anti-aircraft gun was or was used for.
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Frankytown   19.11.2025
Was the projectile a single piece and colored, e.g., black with a colored stripe around it? Or did it have a separate aluminum tip?
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Sondelreise   19.11.2025
Completely filthy, but at least 20 cm long with a point, because I had found the casing shortly before, I assumed it was one. And my suspicion turned out to be correct.

 

 

 

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